May 11, 2024

Bernard Pivot, Host of Influential French TV Show on Books, Dies at 89

 

A black and white photo of Bernard Pivot with an amused look on his face sitting with his legs and arms crossed and wearing a suit with large letters on the wall behind him and a glass of water on the table in front of him.
Bernard Pivot in 1980. His weekly show, “Apostrophes,” ran from 1975 to 1990.Credit...Remi Berli/Gamma-Rapho, via Getty Images

Bernard Pivot, a French television host who made and unmade writers with a weekly book chat program that drew millions of viewers, died on Monday in Neuilly-sur-Seine, outside Paris. He was 89.

His death, in a hospital after being diagnosed with cancer, was confirmed by his daughter Cécile Pivot.

From 1975 to 1990, France watched Mr. Pivot on Friday evenings to decide what to read next. The country watched him cajole, needle and flatter novelists, memoirists, politicians and actors, and the next day went out to bookstores for tables marked “Apostrophes,” the name of Mr. Pivot’s show.

In a French universe where serious writers and intellectuals jostle ferociously for the public’s attention to become superstars, Mr. Pivot never competed with his guests. He achieved a kind of elevated chitchat that flattered his audience without taxing his invitees.

During the program’s heyday in the 1980s, French publishers estimated that “Apostrophes” drove a third of the country’s book sales. So great was Mr. Pivot’s influence that, in 1982, one of President François Mitterrand’s advisers, the leftist intellectual Régis Debray, vowed to get rid of the power of “a single person who has real dictatorial power over the book market.”

But the president stepped in to stanch the resulting outcry, reaffirming Mr. Pivot’s power.

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A black and white photo of Mr. Pivot sitting next to François Mitterrand in front of large letters on the wall that spell "Apostrophes." Both are wearing suits and ties.
Mr. Pivot speaking with François Mitterrand in 1978 during one of Mr. Mitterrand’s appearances on “Apostrophes,” which he said he liked “a lot.”Credit...James Andanson/Sygma, via Getty Images

Mr. Mitterrand announced that he enjoyed Mr. Pivot’s program; he had himself appeared on “Apostrophes” in its early days to push his new book of memoirs. Mr. Pivot met Mr. Mitterrand’s condescension with good humor. The young television presenter’s trademarks were already evident in that 1975 episode: earnest, keen, attentive, affable, respectful and leaning forward to gently provoke.

He was conscious of his power without appearing to revel in it. “The slightest doubt on my part can put an end to the life of a book,” he told Le Monde in 2016.

President Emmanuel Macron of France, reacting to the death on social media, wrote that Mr. Pivot had been “a transmitter, popular and demanding, dear to the heart of the French.”

Mr. Pivot’s death took up the front page of the popular tabloid newspaper Le Parisien on Tuesday, with the headline “The Man Who Made Us Love Books.”

Still, “Apostrophes” had its low moments, which Mr. Pivot came to regret in later years.

In March 1990, he welcomed the writer Gabriel Matzneff who, grinning, boasted of the kind of exploits that 20 years later put him under ongoing criminal investigations for the rape of minors. “He’s a real sexual education teacher,” Mr. Pivot had said with good humor while introducing Mr. Matzneff. “He collects little sweeties.”

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A black and white photo of Gabriel Matzneff, a bald man who is casually dressed, turning to face a man with glasses and curly hair.
The writers Gabriel Matzneff, left, and Maurice Achard in 1980. Mr. Matzneff was one of the more controversial figures to appear on Mr. Pivot’s show.Credit...Sophie Bassouls/Sygma, via Corbis, via Getty Images

The other guests chuckled, with one exception: the Canadian writer Denise Bombardier.

Visibly disgusted, she called Mr. Matzneff “pitiful” and said that in Canada, “we defend the right to dignity, and the rights of children,” adding that “these little girls of 14 or 15 were not only seduced, they were subjected to what is called, in the relations between adults and minors, an abuse of power.” She said Mr. Matzneff’s victims had been “sullied,” probably “for the rest of their lives.” As the discussion continued — Mr. Matzneff professed to be indignant at her intervention — Ms. Bombardier added, “No civilized country is like this.”

At the end of 2019, with the accusations against Mr. Matzneff accumulating, the video of that show drew outrage. Mr. Pivot responded: “As the host of a literary television show, I would have needed a great deal of lucidity and force of character to not be part of a liberty which my colleagues in the written press and in radio accommodated themselves to.”

His show sometimes featured confrontations between rivals; often it was just Mr. Pivot and a guest. Six million people watched him, and nearly everybody wanted to be on his show.

And nearly everybody was, including French literary giants like Marguerite Duras, Patrick Modiano, Jean-Marie Gustave Le Clézio, Marguerite Yourcenar and Georges Simenon. On one episode, Vladimir Nabokov, who was there to talk about his novel “Lolita,” demanded that a teapot filled with whiskey be placed at his disposal and that the questions be submitted in advance; he simply read the answers. On another, a haggard-looking Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, not long out of the Soviet Union, spoke through an interpreter.

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A black and white photo of Mr. Pivot gesturing with his right hand while speaking with Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, a balding man with a long beard.
Mr. Pivot, right, with the Russian writer Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn in 1993 on the show “Bouillon de Culture,” which ran for 10 years, ending in 2001.Credit...Francis Mortier/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

Mr. Pivot told the historian Pierre Nora in an interview for magazine Le Débat in 1990, after the show had ended, that his favorite programs had been the ones with the greats whose residences he had been permitted to enter; he cited the anthropologist Claude Lévi-Strauss, among others.

“I left them with the spirit of a conqueror who had slipped into the private life of a ‘great man,’” he told Mr. Nora. “I left also with the delicious feeling of being a thief and a predator.”

Most of Mr. Pivot’s guests have since been forgotten, as he acknowledged in the interview with Mr. Nora. “How many forgotten titles, covered over by other forgotten titles! But journalism, as I conceive it, isn’t necessarily only about what is beautiful, profound and lasting,” he said. Mr. Solzhenitsyn, he conceded, “made me feel really, really tiny.”

The responses he elicited were often perfectly ordinary, humanizing his exalted guests. “Literature is just a funny thing,” Ms. Duras said quietly, after winning the prestigious Goncourt Prize in 1984.

Mr. Pivot wasn’t satisfied with her remark. “But, but, how is it that you create this style?” he pressed. “Oh, I just say things as they come to me,” Ms. Duras answered. “I’m in a hurry to catch things.”

A host of American writers appeared on the program, too: William Styron, Susan Sontag, Henry Kissinger, Norman Mailer, Mary McCarthy and others. The poet Charles Bukowski was on in 1978, drunken and downing bottles of Sancerre, molesting a fellow guest and getting kicked off the platform. “Bukowski, go to hell, you’re bugging us!” the French writer François Cavanna, a fellow guest, yelled. On a later program, a youthful Paul Auster basked in his host’s praise of the American writer’s French.

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A black and white photo of Charles Bukowski casually dressed and chugging from a bottle that he is holding in his left hand while two other people look on. The word "apostrophes" is written repeatedly on the wall behind them.
The poet Charles Bukowski came on “Apostrophes” drunk in 1978, downing bottles of Sancerre and annoying his fellow guests.Credit...Sophie Bassouls/Sygma, via Getty Images
 
THE NEW YORK TIMES 

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